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===== Numbers ===== | ===== Numbers ===== | ||
- | 1-10 | + | ==== 1-10 ==== |
^ Number ^ Taiwanese ^ | ^ Number ^ Taiwanese ^ | ||
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| 10 | cha̍p | | | 10 | cha̍p | | ||
- | 11-30 | + | ==== 11-30 ==== |
^ Number ^ Taiwanese ^ | ^ Number ^ Taiwanese ^ | ||
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| 30 | saⁿ-cha̍p | | | 30 | saⁿ-cha̍p | | ||
- | Multiples of ten | + | Notes: notice 11 is **cha̍p-it** even though 1 is **chi̍t**, and 12 is **cha̍p-jī** even though 2 is nn̄g. |
+ | Notice, too, that that 20 is **jī-cha̍p** even though 2 is **nn̄g**. | ||
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+ | ==== Multiples of ten ==== | ||
^ Number ^ Taiwanese ^ | ^ Number ^ Taiwanese ^ | ||
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Notes: notice that 20 is **jī-cha̍p** even though 2 is **nn̄g**. Otherwise, all multiples of ten are regular. | Notes: notice that 20 is **jī-cha̍p** even though 2 is **nn̄g**. Otherwise, all multiples of ten are regular. | ||
- | ===== Difficulties of learning Taiwanese ===== | ||
- | -Spoken only. Few written materials. Unnatural to read. However, I learn better by reading and it’s hard to follow spoken materials. | + | ==== Multiples |
- | -Written materials don’t cover conversation anyway. | + | |
- | -Scarcity | + | |
- | -Similar words in Mandarin fool me into thinking Taiwanese won’t be that difficult. | + | |
- | -Multiple transliteration schemes. | + | |
- | -Nobody to speak it with. Learning passive skills only is difficult. | + | |
- | -Many tones and massive tone changes. | + | |
- | -No gradual method of learning the language that I know of. It seems to be all or nothing. | + | |
- | -I’m not in Taiwan. | + | |
- | -I don’t really like the language. | + | |
- | -All materials simply show samples of the language out of which I’m supposed to make sense. No explanations. | + | |
- | -I can’t get used to the fact that there is much from Taiwanese that I have to learn from scratch. | + | |
- | -I’m not used to learning a analytical, monosyllabic, | + | |
- | -No inexhaustible source from which to learn and practice the language pleasurably if I ever become proficient at it. | + | |
- | -Many people who speak it are bilingual anyway. No feeling of “conquer the language and you will conquer the culture/ | + | |
- | -Having listened to my language all my life without learning much doesn’t make me feel better. | + | |
- | -Why do I want to learn the language anyway? There isn’t much to do in it, except for eavesdropping in my parents’ conversation, | + | |
- | -It’s hard to convince myself that the words I read are actual words that evoke the meaning they are supposed to evoke. Can’t get used to the sounds. | + | |
- | -No standardized character representation. Taiwanese written with characters looks like gibberish. | + | |
- | ===== Any reasons to learn it? ===== | + | ^ Number ^ Taiwanese ^ |
+ | | 100 | chi̍t-pah | | ||
+ | | 200 | nn̄g-pah | | ||
+ | | 300 | saⁿ-pah | | ||
+ | | 400 | sì-pah | | ||
+ | | 500 | gō͘-pah | | ||
+ | | 600 | la̍k-pah | | ||
+ | | 700 | chhit-pah | | ||
+ | | 800 | poeh-pah | | ||
+ | | 900 | káu-pah | | ||
- | | + | |
- | -What I’ll learn about learning languages through learning Taiwanese. | + | ==== Multiples of one thousand ==== |
- | -Language as an act of faith: I won’t know what the language is good for until I actually learn it. | + | |
- | -Maybe I’m just disappointed because I still don’t know enough of the language. | + | ^ Number ^ Taiwanese ^ |
+ | | 1000 | chi̍t-chheng | | ||
+ | | 2000 | nn̄g-chheng | | ||
+ | | 3000 | saⁿ-chheng | | ||
+ | | 4000 | sì-chheng | | ||
+ | | 5000 | gō͘-chheng | | ||
+ | | 6000 | la̍k-chheng | | ||
+ | | 7000 | chhit-chheng | | ||
+ | | 8000 | poeh-chheng | | ||
+ | | 9000 | káu-chheng | | ||
===== Books ===== | ===== Books ===== | ||
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It turns out I don't have any books in English. However, there is a [[http:// | It turns out I don't have any books in English. However, there is a [[http:// | ||
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+ | ===== Difficulties of learning Taiwanese ===== | ||
+ | |||
+ | -Spoken only. Few written materials. Unnatural to read. However, I learn better by reading and it’s hard to follow spoken materials. | ||
+ | -Written materials don’t cover conversation anyway. | ||
+ | -Scarcity of materials. | ||
+ | -Similar words in Mandarin fool me into thinking Taiwanese won’t be that difficult. | ||
+ | -Multiple transliteration schemes. | ||
+ | -Nobody to speak it with. Learning passive skills only is difficult. | ||
+ | -Many tones and massive tone changes. | ||
+ | -No gradual method of learning the language that I know of. It seems to be all or nothing. | ||
+ | -I’m not in Taiwan. | ||
+ | -I don’t really like the language. | ||
+ | -All materials simply show samples of the language out of which I’m supposed to make sense. No explanations. | ||
+ | -I can’t get used to the fact that there is much from Taiwanese that I have to learn from scratch. | ||
+ | -I’m not used to learning a analytical, monosyllabic, | ||
+ | -No inexhaustible source from which to learn and practice the language pleasurably if I ever become proficient at it. | ||
+ | -Many people who speak it are bilingual anyway. No feeling of “conquer the language and you will conquer the culture/ | ||
+ | -Having listened to my language all my life without learning much doesn’t make me feel better. | ||
+ | -Why do I want to learn the language anyway? There isn’t much to do in it, except for eavesdropping in my parents’ conversation, | ||
+ | -It’s hard to convince myself that the words I read are actual words that evoke the meaning they are supposed to evoke. Can’t get used to the sounds. | ||
+ | -No standardized character representation. Taiwanese written with characters looks like gibberish. | ||
+ | |||
+ | ===== Any reasons to learn it? ===== | ||
+ | |||
+ | -The challenge. | ||
+ | -What I’ll learn about learning languages through learning Taiwanese. | ||
+ | -Language as an act of faith: I won’t know what the language is good for until I actually learn it. | ||
+ | -Maybe I’m just disappointed because I still don’t know enough of the language. |